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Adam Rippon on new life, loves, memoir, ass and skating in the nude
Rippon says Ashley Wagner abuse allegations, Coughlin suicide rocked skating world

Adam Rippon says the time was right for his new memoir, ‘Beautiful on the Outside.’ (Photo by Peter Yang; courtesy Grand Central Publishing)
Adam Rippon
‘Beautiful on the
Outside’ book signing
Wednesday, Oct. 23
6 p.m.
Book Soup
8818 Sunset Blvd.
West Hollywood
$28 (includes book)
We blitzed through a torrent of questions with Adam Rippon by phone last week. The bronze medal-winning gay breakout star (and self-proclaimed “America’s sweetheart”) releases his memoir “Beautiful on the Outside” Oct. 15. He and skier pal Gus Kenworthy each came out in 2015 and last year became the first openly gay male U.S. athletes to compete at the Winter Olympics. Rippon is in LA (at Book Soup) on Wednesday, Oct. 23 as part of a 13-city book tour. His comments have been slightly edited for syntax and length.
WASHINGTON BLADE: How did the book come about?
ADAM RIPPON: Well, right after the Olympics, my team was saying that it might be a fun idea to write a book and I thought that this, like, really felt like a full chapter of my life sort of coming to an end and a new one was starting so I felt like it would be a really therapeutic almost experience. And I thought it would be a good thing for me to do, to kind of debrief and sort of be my moment to soak in everything that was like going on. So it was my team’s idea but then ultimately it was something that I did truly want to pursue.
BLADE: How long did it take to write?
RIPPON: About six-seven months. It wasn’t too long but it was a substantial amount of time.
BLADE: A lot of your appeal is the way you come across on camera. Were you concerned that that might not translate to the written page?
RIPPON: Totally. One thing that I really focused on was (making sure) the writing felt very in person, so that whatever you were reading felt like I could have been sitting right next to you like on a couch telling you this story and you were hearing my voice. So that was really important to me because I feel less like a writer and more like a storyteller. So I wanted to make sure, especially when I would be doing the audiobook, that it really felt like I wasn’t adding any words or saying any words that I wouldn’t say in a conversation.
BLADE: You share a lot of hard-won wisdom in the book. Were those convictions about life already in your head and bones or did the process of writing the book kind of help you distill and articulate some of that?
RIPPON: I think when I wrote the book, that was such an important thing for me to add into it because those are lessons and scenarios and things that I had learned and they were just so important to me, that was something really I wanted to add into the story. … Sometimes I just laugh at myself and move along through life through different struggles and things of that nature, but I really did learn a lot about myself, it really prepared me for the bigger moments.
BLADE: A lot of the book is about how what was going on in your head affected your skating. Did you ever work with a sports psychologist when you were competing?
RIPPON: I did but … it’s funny now, post skating career, I see a therapist but when I was skating, I felt like, no that’s weak, I’m not going to go to a sports psychologist, I’m going to just suck it up. I wish I had, but it’s harder because when you’re a competitive athlete. One you don’t have a lot of means to go out and find someone on your own and they do offer someone but it’s like someone that everybody uses, like all of your competitors are going to use the same sports psychologist, so in a way I was like, “Am I really going to tell my deepest fears with somebody’s who’s then gonna work with all of my competitors too?” I was like, no, I’m gonna tell this bitch that yeah, everything’s fine and I’ve never felt better. So it’s hard but now as an adult, I can go out and find someone on my own who’s personally mine and that was just something I did not have access to when I was competing because it was really expensive.
BLADE: How often are you on the ice these days?
RIPPON: Maybe once or twice a month now. Just skating for myself. Sometimes if I have a day off, I’ll go work with one of the skaters I used to train with, Mariah Bell. Working with her some makes me feel connected to skating, but I don’t skate very much on my own anymore.
BLADE: Would you like to do more skating exhibition tours?
RIPPON: I would, but they take so much time and energy to prepare for and I would not ever want to do one and not feel like I was giving my best. … Right now I really do want to focus on pursuing these other endeavors that are available to me now and I do want to pursue them because I do think the time to do that is right now and if there is something comes up in skating, it’ll make sense. Right now, I think I’m really focused on writing this book and that kind of hustle.
BLADE: It looks like you’ve stayed in great shape. Do you feel pressure to have perfect abs? I mean the shape you were in for Olympics has to be impossible to maintain I imagine.
RIPPON: Well, you know what? I’m gonna be super honest. After the Olympics, I went to the gym and I was like, “I can’t do this anymore. I’ve gone here every day of my life for 20 years and I just don’t have the motivation,” and that was OK. But I didn’t go to the gym for maybe a year.
BLADE: Oh wow.
RIPPON: Yeah, I know. It was a lot.
BLADE: But you didn’t gain 300 pounds or anything. I haven’t seen you lately but you look like you were in great shape on “Dancing With the Stars.”
RIPPON: I’m not 300 pounds yet, but no. … I realized I just needed to find new goals at the gym because it’s something I really enjoy. So I’ve been going for like the past month and have been working out pretty regularly with my old trainer again and, of course, the workouts are totally different, because it’s no longer about trying to be as good a skater as possible. But I really love the rush you get from finishing a workout.

Adam Rippon (Washington Blade file photo by Michael Key)
BLADE: You make a joke in the book about your hook-ups not believing you had an office job because nobody with a desk job would have an ass like yours. What kind of currency has having that kind of butt given you in your personal life? Is it something your boyfriends have gone on and on about or it something that maybe seems more exaggerated from afar? Tell me about your ass, Adam.
RIPPON: Well, here we go. How much time do you have? (laughs) No, I’m kidding. Um, the one thing I’ve noticed, now surrounding myself with people who are not athletes by profession is that everybody who works out and goes to the gym, the hardest thing for them is legs. I’ve noticed going back to the gym, that’s always been my upper hand because I’ve done only legs for so long. With my boyfriend, he’s mostly envious that I have these bigger legs and, like, a butt that really fills out my pants. Mostly he’s jealous but he does like it, which is good because I can’t really get rid of it.
BLADE: At one point in the book you say you were having trouble with quad toe so you had to switch to quad lutz. Why not quad sal?
RIPPON: It’s a little different with the quads. That’s why you see these Russian junior girls and some of them won’t do triple axels but their only two quads are toe and lutz. The lutz may be the hardest because that entrance is so hard but when you have the torque just right, it really snaps the quickest into rotation. I think when you’re learning triples, the skill of how you should learn them is correct, but with quads, it’s more like which do you feel and I think difficulty sort of comes in second.
BLADE: Did you ever play around with quad loops or flips?
RIPPON: Yeah. I think in my life, I’ve landed a (quad) flip, a salchow. It was just one day and it’s going really well, then the next day I’m just doing like cheated triples and I’m like, “Oh, OK, here we go.”
BLADE: Have we hit the ceiling on quads? Is it realistic to think somebody might land a quad axel someday?
RIPPON: I think so. I never thought I’d see a day where somebody has a program like Nathan Chen’s planned programs and it’s something he actually does and it’s not, like, a joke. And it’s the way he does it really effortlessly and you don’t really actually notice he’s doing all these quads ‘cause they’re so well done, which is the scariest part of his skating.
BLADE: Have you stayed in touch with him?
RIPPON: I’ve stayed in touch with pretty much everyone I competed with and with Nathan, we had the same coach for a while. I have such a soft spot for him and the things that he does. I’m always cheering for him. He’s just a really, really good kid and, you know, works super hard and is so well rounded. I love catching up and seeing how he’s doing.
BLADE: I know it’s probably hard to put into words, but how much harder is the triple loop than the triple toe as the second jump in a combination?
RIPPON: Adding the triple loop onto something is much harder because the room for error and correction on landing the first jump is so small. When you’re doing a triple loop in a combination, the biggest thing is you cannot readjust or fix the landing position of that first jump because it happens so quickly and it immediately needs to come together. With the toe loop, you can readjust the tap into the ice, you can tap a little further, tap quicker, you can jump a little more from the assistance of the free leg, so it’s still incredibly difficult but a triple loop combination is by far much harder than a triple toe loop combination.
BLADE: Were you more team Zagitova or Medvedeva in the ladies’ event last Olympics?
RIPPON: You know, I think that I was really impressed with Zagitova, I thought she skated very well, but I do have to say the way that Medvedeva handled herself as like a two-time world champion, and then to go out and skate two clean programs, I just felt she had a lot of substance to her skating maybe her style wasn’t the I don’t know, wasn’t everybody’s cup of tea. She performed, she had everything that an Olympic champion should have and I really felt that she kind of earned it. Zagitova skated a little bit like a really excellent junior lady in her first year senior. It wasn’t as refined and Medvedeva was a two-time world champion heading into that event, she was very refined and in that moment and was incredibly young, but yet had some womanly flair to her, which I really admired. I completely see why Medvedeva was the silver medalist and Zagitova was the gold medalist, I understand, but if I were judging I would have had Medvedeva first.
BLADE: Did it bother you that Zagitova back-stacked all her jumps? (Jumps completed in the second half of the long program are weighted in scoring.)
RIPPON: No. I mean, of course I want to be like, yes, it doesn’t make for a nice program, but then at the end of the day, we have rules and we have points and you know I think if Eteri’s goal, their coach, is that she has a student who wins, and that they compete and there’s no pecking order of who should win and who shouldn’t win, you’re gonna go and you’re gonna do the most that you can do. So, I mean she played the game within the rules and she knew that Medvedeva had better style, so the way to make Zagitova more competitive against Medvedeva would be to just technically you know, put everything at the end. So is it annoying, like a little bit, but is she cheating? No. Everybody had that option and everybody knew that, so it doesn’t bother me. I kind of look at it like I don’t like it, but you’re smart.
BLADE: Why are they wrapping everybody up in those goddamn jackets now the second you step off the ice? They never used to do that.
RIPPON: It’s a sponsor thing. While you’re just sitting there in kiss and cry, they want the sponsor logo to be visible on TV. Obviously you couldn’t skate with a logo, but when you’re just sitting there waiting for scores, you can see what it says on the label.
BLADE: I wasn’t a big fan when they changed the rules to allow vocal music. You took advantage of it. What was your opinion?
RIPPON: I didn’t like it at first, but then I really enjoyed it as a skater. I just thought it opened the door for a lot of really cool ideas.
BLADE: How was Tonya Harding on “Dancing With the Stars?” Did you develop any camaraderie with her?
RIPPON: I wouldn’t say camaraderie, but she was super nice and she’s fun. She’s super funny, really personable. You know, I doubt Nancy (Kerrigan) would think that, but she’s super personable. I had no problem with her. She was nice.
BLADE: Did you admire her skating back in the day?
RIPPON: The first competition I ever watched was ’98, so I never grew up with her, but once I went back and started watching things, I’ll always remember that opening at 1991 nationals with the “Batman” theme and that mint green dress.
BLADE: Did you like the movie “I, Tonya”?
RIPPON: I mean Margot Robbie when she does press for the movie, she says it’s Tonya’s side of the story and I think she did a really good job of that. But I think even Margot would tell you that the truth probably lies in the middle.
BLADE: So many skaters — Brian Boitano, Jeffrey Buttle, Johnny Weir — came out after they stopped competing. I’m not asking for names, but are there still closeted skaters that you know of or is that era finally over?
RIPPON: I think we’re becoming past it and I really feel that like I hope that I had something to do with it, where people felt like it didn’t really matter and you could still be successful. But I do think that the pressures of someone like me and someone like Brian Boitano or Jeffrey Buttle are so different. I was never a favorite for a world title, there was no pressure like that. I was just trying to kind of make my world team and see if I, if someone’s having a bad day, could swoop in for a world medal. Or like at the Olympics, know that I could be a really good asset to the team event. So I knew that like the pressures for me were totally different, they were not the same as somebody trying to win a world title, I wasn’t going to be as scrutinized. I mean especially compared to somebody like Brian Boitano in the ‘80s. So it’s a totally different time but I do think that because a lot of the attention, I did get at the Olympics, I think it broke down a lot of stigma. Because yes, there was a gay athlete but everything else wasn’t about that, which I think was great. I think it was a really good thing.

Adam Rippon at the 2018 Human Rights Campaign National Dinner. (Washington Blade photo by Michael Key)
BLADE: Why are there so many more medal opportunities in the summer games? Can you imagine if figure skaters had the number of medal opportunities as Michael Phelps?
RIPPON: I think when you get into subjective sports where it’s all based on human judging, it’s really hard to break those into different categories. And it’s part of the drama of skating that there aren’t all these opportunities. That’s one reason I love the idea of a team event, not only because I’m a medalist from it, but I love that it’s brought different stars from the Olympics forward. I mean look at Yulia Lipnitskaya from Sochi. In the team event, she was the star of the whole competition and when we think about the individual, I even forget that she competed in it. So it gives other people the chance to be Olympic stars in a different capacity. The whole point of the Olympics is to inspire people to get into sports. That really is truly what it is. And I think the team event really does that.
BLADE: You obviously came up long after compulsories were eliminated. When you go back and watch old performances, do you think skaters in the ‘70s and ‘80s had better form, better edges, because of having to learn the school figures or not so much?
RIPPON: I think the quality of skating is going up because the demands of what you have to do now technically are so high. You have to do so many transitions into jumps and so many turns and steps into all of your elements so you get a nice transition score and I think that’s pushing people to learn these turns and steps in the proper way and faster than if they’d started with figures. This way you jump right into it and the learning curve is a lot quicker. You know you have to do it this way because that’s how it’s judged so it’s the only way to be competitive.
BLADE: Were you really fully nude except for your boots for the ESPN shoot or did you have some kind of little loincloth on or something?
RIPPON: I was 100 percent naked and it was actually at the rink I trained at. There are three rinks and one is all the way at the end in the corner and they blocked it off and had security and everything but yeah, it was fully nude, and for the first two minutes it was like, “Isn’t it weird that I can see my dick and I’m skating,” but then you get going and you’re like it doesn’t really become a thing anymore and nobody’s really fazed by it because they’ve shot like a million naked athletes before so it’s a very cool experience.
BLADE: Isn’t it hard to skate with your dick flopping around?
RIPPON: No, because at that point, everything gets so small it’s like, “OK, this is what we’re dealing with.” It’s nothing to write home about. (laughs)

ESPN’s 2018 ‘Body Issue’ cover
BLADE: What did you think of Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski’s commentary of your Olympic performances?
RIPPON: They bring such excitement to skating. People tune in to watch the skating, but also to hear their opinions. They’re like Dick Button and Peggy Fleming for this generation, where you wanted to hear if Dick Button thought you were a good skater or not. They aren’t mean, they’re honest and now, being able to be more subjective, I see that. I remember there was one performance where Johnny said he thought I wasn’t interpreting the music well and I was like, “What? He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” But as I watch it back now, I’m like, “No, he’s totally right.” He was just giving an honest opinion and it’s his job do to that. … They add flair to the whole competition.
BLADE: Did you ever hear from Mike Pence after the Olympics or was that just a big dog-and-pony show?
RIPPON: Well I knew that I never would, so I haven’t.
BLADE: Do you keep the Mirror Ball Trophy (from “Dancing With the Stars”) with all your skating medals? Or they displayed?
RIPPON: All my skating medals are in a container from the Container Store. The Mirror Ball Trophy is in a guest bedroom on the night stand. I have it out if somebody wants to see it, but it’s not something I’m looking at all the time. I want to focus on getting more things and — I know this is just in my own head — but not feel complicit in what I’ve achieved so far.
BLADE: You don’t even keep your Olympic medal out?
RIPPON: They came in beautiful boxes so I have it in the box on a side table with the medal inside. So it’s there if somebody wants to see it but it’s not like, “Oh wow, it’s hanging on the wall.”
BLADE: Any hint of sexual tension between you and (out Olympic skier) Gus Kenworthy or is that just totally a gay bromance?
RIPPON: It’s very much a brotherly sort of relationship. I adore him. We don’t talk all the time, but he’s just somebody I think I’ll always be kind of close to.
BLADE: You say in the book you and (figure skater) Ashley Wagner were close friends. Do you have any comment on her decision in August to say she was sexually assaulted (11 years prior by pairs skater John Coughlin, who committed suicide in January under similar allegations)?
RIPPON: I think it was brave. I’m sure it was really hard for her to do it. I think it’s going to hopefully create some good conversations with people within the sport.
BLADE: You say in the book you two were super close. Did she tell you about this shortly after it happened? Did you know John Coughlin?
RIPPON: I did know John, I thought, pretty well. But I had no idea any of this was going on and it’s been pretty tough ‘cause I wish I could have said something to someone or said something to him, but I didn’t have that opportunity. It’s something I think a lot of skaters are struggling with because we don’t agree with it. It’s not good. So many athletes aren’t equipped to deal with the suicide of someone that they knew. So it was really something challenging for a lot of people to get through and it was just something that was still, you know, pretty raw I think for a lot of people.
BLADE: What did you think of Yuzuru Hanyu’s (gold-winning) performances in PyeongChang?
RIPPON: I thought he was amazing. He’s incredible. Such a legend.
BLADE: Is he approachable or kind of in his own world? What’s it like being around such a great skater?
RIPPON: There’s a level of respect for everybody like that that all the competitors have regardless of who they are or what they’ve achieved. He’s always been super nice and I would say that I enjoyed competing with him as both gold older. One thing that helped is since he moved to Canada, his English got better so we could actually chat. As an adult, I enjoyed seeing him and getting to cheer for him and watch him compete.
BLADE: How do you feel about turning 30 (in November)?
RIPPON: I can’t wait. I’m really excited.
BLADE: Why?
RIPPON: I just feel like it’s perfect timing. I’m retiring from skating and starting this new phase of my life and career so the time feels really good. And I don’t know, I felt like I was 30 for a few years already anyway, so it’s all good timing.
BLADE: Does (boyfriend) JP (Jussi-Pekka Kajaala) live with you now in L.A.? How are things there?
RIPPON: JP goes back and forth between L.A. and Finland. I’m actually going there Friday.
BLADE: How often do you get to see each other on average?
RIPPON: We probably spend about five months out of the year together.
BLADE: Are you and (“Dancing With the Stars” dancing partner) Jenna (Johnson) still BFFs?
RIPPON: Um, yeah. I love her. We talk, like, very often.
BLADE: Are you a morning person by nature or did you kind of just force yourself to be one all those years getting up to train?
RIPPON: I’m not, but if I don’t force myself to be a morning person, I could stay in bed for like years.
BLADE: What do you have coming up? What do the next six months look like for you?
RIPPON: I’m on the book tour for two weeks, then right after that I have a few stops and I’m working on a few other things that will be announced soon, which is cool. I also just filmed another series of Breaking the Ice, the little videos on YouTube. Yeah, just stuff like that. It’s all good, nothing super busy.
BLADE: What would you like to be doing in 10 years?
RIPPON: I would love to still be working in entertainment, in comedy, and be successful. Let’s see, I don’t know, I just would like to be really successful, have more awards, right? I’m an athlete, I love a good trophy. So I think I really enjoy the kind of stuff I’m doing now and just continue to be a performer but like in a different way. I’d love to still be doing all this in 10 years.
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Gottmik and Violet Chachki are bringing drag excellence across the country with ‘The Knockout Tour’
Gottmik spills on this legendary tour and the power of art in the face of hatred.
No conversation about legendary Drag Queens is complete without discussing Gottmik and Violet Chachki.
Audiences first met these iconic performers on RuPaul’s Drag Race; Violet sent waves throughout the fandom with her hard-fought victory during the show’s seventh installment, with her revolutionary style instantly cementing her as a truly historic ‘fashion queen’. Gottmik, who had made waves in LA for years as a makeup artist before getting cast, was a fan-favorite finalist on season 13 before returning to raise money for Trans Lifeline during All-Stars 9. Both Queens made headlines during their tenure on the show, but most of their hardcore fans know them for the jaw-dropping projects they took on afterward — often with one another. One of the most famous ‘Drag Duos’ today, whether it be hilarious podcasts or high-energy songs, these performers have remained constant collaborators amidst each other’s many individual ventures. Their careers are filled with so many legendary feats, but none are as ambitious as their latest international endeavor: The Knockout Tour.

Gottmik made time to speak with the LA Blade during one of his rare breaks before the next stop on their tour. He dug into tour life with his best friend and the death-defying stunts that fill each show, as well as what it means to bring such unique artistry to some of the most conservative counties across the country. Gottmik spoke about their ongoing mission of using this platform to inspire others to live as their most authentic selves — all while looking completely immaculate, of course!
“The second I was on Drag Race, we started touring together…and it just clicked!” Said Gottmik, discussing how effortlessly he and Violet became best friends post-Drag Race. Fans have grown to adore their dynamic over the years, with the duo’s podcast No Gorge highlighting how each’s biting fashion sense and deep appreciation for the most niche gay slang make them such a perfect friendship match. It’s why, despite many people warning them against taking on such a big professional opportunity with a friend, it was never a question that the pair would do this tour together. “[The Knockout Tour] works because, no matter how we get there, we have the same end goal: pushing the needle forward in the Drag space, breaking down barriers, and slaying together!”
“This is drag at an extremely high level,” Gottmik gushed when describing what fans can expect at a Knockout show. “We have multiple aerial [stunts], these crazy props that we’re climbing on, and it’s just so wild! It’s drag in a theatrical burlesque, rock and roll style that you’ve [never seen].” In many ways, this aesthetic is a perfect fusion of the pair; Violet is a premier burlesque performer specializing in aerial work, and Gottmik has always embodied a grunge-filled perfection in his trademark Drag style. These Queens are bombastic and dramatic in the best way, unabashedly showing off the unique flairs that make them some of the most distinct performers working today. It’s a pairing that inspires not only awe but a sense of effortless confidence — a confidence that Gottmik knows many of his fans need right now.
Hateful rhetoric has steadily grown across the United States in recent years, with certain areas becoming hotbeds of the conservative discrimination that Gottmik has always faced as a transgender man (the performer uses he/him pronouns when out of Drag and she/her when in Drag). Despite this, Gottmik emphasized that it was never a question that their tour would stop in these areas — in fact, they made a point to. “We are two queer entertainers with a platform, and it’s important that we visit [those places] and share our stories and inspire people in towns who don’t get to see shows like this…to inspire them to be themselves.”
Gottmik is especially passionate about using his platform for good because he knows how much of his large fanbase is young trans kids, just like he once was. “The ones who are growing up and figuring themselves out, and then are looking at their TVs and [seeing] their government call them crazy…it’s important for me to use my platform to show them [representation] that I didn’t get to see in the media.” He clarified that, yes, audiences are going to come to the show and see a punk rock-and-roll Goddess oozing confidence onstage — but being that person didn’t come easy. It took years of self-discovery for Gottmik to recognize his transgender identity, and it was the love and support of a found queer family that helped him become the creative powerhouse audiences know him as now. Each Knockout Tour show brings audiences into this intimate journey, showcasing the incredible authenticity that Gottmik has spent years developing while reminding attendees that this is all possible in their own lives.

Throughout the interview, Gottmik painted a riveting image of The Knockout Tour — the shows themselves, and the queer community who made it all possible. He detailed the shocking stunts fans will see onstage, the incredible music he and Violet perform each show, and the years of hard work that created these two performers that so many fans love. At the root of it all, though, is representation.
A representation of not only Violet and Gottmik’s many talents, though of course these Queens’ immense expertise is the bedrock of this entire tour. But the vital image of two queer people who refuse to dull themselves just because others said they should. Of a transgender artist who stands proudly in the face of discrimination and who uses his art to inspire others to do the same. “We’re [showing] the whole world that we’re not going anywhere, and you can’t change us.” Explained Gottmik, as the interview came to an end. “We create an amazing queer safe space that is really special for so many people…and it’s just really cool that [we get] to create that space for everyone every [show].” It’s a kind of space that’s hard to come by nowadays. And it’s one that Gottmik and Violet Chachki are determined to bring to thousands of queer artists just like them internationally with this tour.
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‘Peter Hujar’s Day’ director on the “radical individuality” of ‘70s and ‘80s queer artists and connecting with Ben Whishaw over legacy
Based on the real transcript of Rosenkrantz’s and Hujar’s conversation, which was recorded on Dec. 18, 1974, the film is both a celebration of Hujar’s life and an homage to the artists who died of AIDS.
When I log onto Zoom to speak with Ira Sachs (Passages, Little Men), a queer filmmaker who has been immersed in New York’s independent film scene since 1989, he’s having a conversation with one of his kids (offscreen) about taking his favorite bag for trick-or-treating. “If you won’t lose it, you can take it. It’s hard to find. Just don’t lose it!” Sachs says.
It’s a rare glimpse into the active life of both an artist and a father, which I can’t help but keep thinking about when we begin talking about Peter Hujar’s Day — Sachs’ intimate new film that paints a portrait of Peter Hujar (Ben Whishaw), a real-life artist who died of AIDS in 1987, just through a conversation with his friend, Linda Rosenkrantz (Rebecca Hall). It’s in everyday discussions about everything from Halloween bags to the morning smell of coffee that we can sometimes find the most connection.
Over the course of 24 hours, Sachs paints a vivid portrait of Hujar’s daily struggles to make money as an artist, his insecurities about capturing portraits of Allen Ginsberg and William S. Burroughs, and the friendships with people like Linda that kept him afloat. Based on the real transcript of Rosenkrantz’s and Hujar’s conversation, which was recorded on Dec. 18, 1974, the film is both a celebration of Hujar’s life and an homage to the artists who died of AIDS.
Ahead of the theatrical release of Peter Hujar’s Day, The Blade had the opportunity to speak with Sachs about honoring the New York-based artists of the ‘70s and ‘80s who were immersed in queer culture, reuniting with his Passages star Ben Whishaw, and why community is so fundamentally important to the LGBTQ+ community. This interview has been edited and condensed.
Obviously, this is a very New York movie, and we’re here talking for The Los Angeles Blade. But I love how specific this film is to New York. To start off, I’ve read about how you discovered this conversation. How did the form of this conversation inform what you ultimately wanted to portray about Peter Hujar as an artistic figure?
Well, I think I almost didn’t know the answer to that until the film was done. I realized what it does very well, thanks to Peter’s storytelling, is that it’s a window into the truth of how hard it is to make art. And I think the struggle that he goes through around the quality, the success or failure of his photograph of Allen Ginsberg is, for me, both very moving and also very comforting. Every time I make art, it seems impossible, and I feel like, “Oh, it’s hard for Peter Hujar too.” And I feel that gives me a kind of strength and confidence. And I will say that I have often looked to the artists of the East Village, particularly queer, gay artists of the ‘70s and ‘80s, as an extraordinary inspiration — many and most we lost to AIDS. But there was a kind of radical individuality during that time, and that was encouraged in art making, which I feel is beautiful and necessary.
Here, you are reuniting with Ben Whishaw, whom I loved in Passages. I’d love to hear about your collaboration specifically with him between these two films, and what made you see him as the leading man for Peter Hujar.
Well, I read the book when I was working with Ben on Passages, and it was a great and wonderful excuse to keep working with Ben Whishaw. And I also knew that Ben had an interest in queer history and queer creative life that paralleled my own. It’s something we talk about a lot. We want to be adventurers like our heroes. He also looks a little bit like Peter, and it turns out he has a self-portrait of Peter on his wall, which I didn’t know. So all stars aligned, and we got to make this film.
This is your first time working with Rebecca Hall, and I know she’s going to be in your next film, the musical The Man I Love with Rami Malek. You’ve had actors you’ve returned to work with throughout your career, so I’d love to hear about some of the most fruitful aspects of these collaborations.
Well, Rebecca has a whiff of genius. She’s so fine in her work. She’s an actor who, even in silence, is also a writer. She tells stories and subtext without underlining anything. So it seemed exhilarating to collaborate with her. Specifically, I’d seen her in a 2016 movie called Christine, which I thought she was so brilliant. And also with Ben and Rebecca, they’re comfortable with risking failure. I think that is so generative — not to be looking at outcome, but to be embracing process.
I absolutely agree. And as you mentioned earlier, you are depicting New York at a very specific time in the ‘70s, before the AIDS epidemic hit. You’re someone who’s lived in New York and started your film career there. Obviously, it takes place in an apartment, but we do get to hear the sounds of New York; it still paints a very specific portrait and texture of this city.
It was important to bring the sound of a city into the movie, and it also became part of the drama. Whether it be a jackhammer or a siren or, at certain moments, quiet. Specifically, the sounds of prostitutes on a street corner, which are the last image described by Hujar when he talks about his day: the sex workers below his window. To me, that’s a very city sound and a city image. It was one of the ones that made me love the text and love the book. It’s this quiet in the middle of the night when you hear somebody else’s drama between the glass of your apartment.
There are also moments where you decide to intercut beats with classical music, which I thought was really effective. Could you speak to that?
Well, I wanted the film to be both real and theatrical at the same time. The music ruptures an idea of the everyday. It brings the film to a heightened level of emotion and drama. From the beginning of the film, I also wanted to be explicit that this was, in itself, a creative act. Making the film was like taking a photograph. It was experimental, it was uncertain, it was exploratory, and, hopefully, it was a form of portraiture — both of Hujar, but also of this friendship between Peter and his friend Linda, which seems really personal. My relationship to certain women in my life is conveyed through the love that you see between Peter and Linda, and between Ben and Rebecca.
For me, one of the real emotional anchors of this film is this universal feeling that we’re wasting our time in the day, or if you were to look at everything you do in any given day, there’s the fear that you haven’t accomplished enough. But I really love the structure of this film and that you’re inviting us to sit in the mundane, little moments. Could you speak to what you wanted to convey in your relationship to time in the film?
There is an evocation throughout the film that goes unspoken to the loss of Hujar and so many others to AIDS. That is really the unspoken emotion in the film, which is the preciousness of someone like Peter. Something about Peter is quite extraordinary, partly because he’s such a good artist. In certain ways, I tried not to think about Hujar’s photographs, but they were in me. And similarly, I tried not to think consciously about losing Peter; 13 years later, he was dead. But it was really in me when I made the film, and the fairness of that loss. There is an image of these steel planks in the Hudson River, which are remnants of the piers. I don’t know if that comes through to anyone, but something is missing in this shot of the river, and I think in this city, there’s a lot that’s missing.
That makes me want to re-watch the film to pick up more on that.
I made a film called Last Address, an eight-minute film. It’s online, it’s probably my most seen film. It’s about a group of New York artists who died of AIDS, and I shot the houses where they lived at the time of their death. Someone said to me today that it seemed like Hujar is the inverse because Last Address has no biographical information except where people lived and when they died. And this is now actually all biographical information on a certain day. And that film is also structured artificially in the course of the day. It begins at Keith Haring’s house early in the morning when you hear birds and trucks delivering milk, and then it ends at Times Square, at the house of Reza Abdoh, who was an Iranian theater director who died of AIDS. Similarly, I constructed a false day, a cinematic day.
On that note, I’m not somebody who went into this film knowing too much about Peter Hujar. I saw this at AFI Fest, and I was struck by some of the conversations that people were having as they left the theater, being interested in wanting to learn more about him and discover his work first-hand. How do you see this film as an opportunity for up-and-coming queer generations to discover Peter Hujar as an artist?
That’s interesting. I will say that it was not my intention, but it’s pleasurable to hear that that’s the case. There’s something about discovering an artist so singular and so powerfully confident within what could be a marginalized space that is extraordinarily generative to younger artists. It can be. Peter’s attention to the people around him, the queer people around him, the gay people around him, and the trans people around him is so rigorous and so loving, and also so counter to mainstream and global culture. The film is really about the resistance of globalization, and to the extent that that’s what Peter’s work does. It says the local is where you find meaning. And that’s anti-capitalist.
This film premiered at Sundance back in January, and I know you’ve had many films premiere there in the past. Could you speak to the state of the film industry because, as we’re seeing, there are not as many distribution deals coming out of Sundance? But this film was one that was really able to find its audience, getting picked up by Sideshow and Janus Films.
It’s never easy to work outside the dominant system. We are struggling with the dearth of exhibition spaces. I guess we’re struggling with an ecosystem that isn’t fertile, and so sustainability becomes very difficult for artists, when there’s not, in each stage — including festivals — the energy, whether that be economic or artistic, that might generate more and more work. But I don’t want to be nostalgic. There’s an attempt to understand that we have lost things; we lost a generation of artists to AIDS. We lost the kind of local nature of an artistic community that we had in the East Village in the ‘70s and ‘80s. We lost places like The Bar, which was on the corner of Second Avenue and Second Street. On Second Avenue and Fourth Street, there was a local watering hole where people could find each other on a daily basis and share their stories. And so, in a way, the movie is an encouragement for conversation and to spend time with people. In doing so, we can gather strength as artists and as a community, as queer people.
I love that. I’m not in New York, but I think finding a real sense of community is something I’ve personally struggled with as a queer person. That’s just hard to find in everyday life. So I felt this film was, as you said, a reminder of the power of community and conversation.
It’s so necessary, and I think particularly as people who are making creative work, you need something that is a ballast against one’s doubt. And companionship can be that.
The film will have a U.S. theatrical release in November.
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Guillermo Diaz reflects on his role as a queer, Latino actor in the biz while taking on the director’s hat.
Diaz has a career that spans over 30 years; he’s shattered stereotypes and Hollywood norms with his long list of work
Actor Guillermo Diaz has been working hard in the entertainment industry for over three decades. Proud of his heritage and queer identity, he has broken through many glass ceilings to have a prolific career that includes tentpole moments such as roles in the films Party Girl, Half Baked, and Bros, and in major TV shows like Weeds and Scandal, and even in a Britney Spears music video. This season, he made his feature-length directorial debut with the film Dear Luke, Love Me.
In an intimate sit-down with the Blade, Diaz shares that he attributes a lot of his success to his Cuban upbringing.
“Well, it prepared me to learn how to lie really well and be a good actor because it was a lot of acting like you were straight, back in the eighties and nineties (laugh). Another thing I learned from my Cuban immigrant parents is that they work super hard. They both had two jobs; we were latchkey kids, and I just saw them constantly working and wanting to provide for us by any means. So that was super instilled in me. That was the one thing that really stuck out that I admire and respect.”
Besides Diaz’s recurring roles on TV, his resume includes appearances in just about every genre of programming out there. If there is a major show out there, he was probably on it. Law and Order, Girls, The Closer, Chappelle’s Show, ER, Party of Five, and the list goes on. He’s accomplished more in his career thus far than most actors do in a lifetime. There is no doubt he is a hard worker.
“It’s a sign that I just loved to work, and it’s funny looking back at it now because you see all those things, but at the time it was just the next gig, the next job. I was just wanting to keep working and acting and learning and doing all that stuff. Then it sort of accumulates, and you look back and you’re like, damn! That’s a lot of stuff!”
Acting was never on Diaz’s radar until he was asked to fill in for a friend in a Beastie Boys medley for a talent show when he was a sophomore in high school.
“I did it and fell in love with it. I was teased a lot in high school. Then, when I did that performance, all those people who teased me were like, you were so great! So I looked at it initially as a thing of like, oh, this is where I’m accepted and people like me when I’m on stage. It’s kind of sad, too, because that’s what I latched onto. And then of course, I fell in love with the craft and performing and acting, but that initial rush was because all these people who were messing with me and teasing me all of a sudden liked me. And I was like, this is what I have to do.”

Little did Diaz know that he would break the mold when it came to stereotypical casting. When he first hit the industry, diversity and positive representation were not a thing in Hollywood.
“You just kind of accepted at the time. It was the early nineties. 90% of the time, it was playing a thug or a gun dealer, or a crack head – it was all bad guys, negative characters. But it was either that or not act and not be in anything. So you just kind of accept it, and then you have this sort of vision or hope that in the future it’s going to get better.
Diaz’s management was trepidatious about him playing gay roles for fear of being typecast. But Diaz did play a handful of gay roles early on, although he passed on But I’m A Cheerleader, which went on to become a gay cult classic. Diaz decided early on that he was not going to hide his sexuality. Diaz appeared in the film Stonewall. That was the defining point for him in sharing his identity.
“Being cast in that historical sort of dramatization of the 1969 Stonewall riots – I couldn’t believe I was in the midst that I was in the middle of doing this and playing the lead drag queen on the film. I just felt so honored, and I knew it was important, and I knew I needed to do a really good job. I thought, what a special moment this is. And it kicked my ass shooting that movie.
I remember after doing Stonewall, people saying, well, now you’re either going to have to make a choice if you’re going to lie, or if you’re going to just be honest, and you’re going to have to be out from now on if you’re going to be honest. And I was like, I’m not going to freaking lie. When they’d asked me, I would say I was gay. I think because I never tried to hide it, it didn’t become a thing. So people just kind of ignored it. It didn’t mess with me or my career. I don’t know. Or I just got lucky. I don’t freaking know.”

As a queer, Latin actor, Diaz is all too aware of what is happening politically and socially in the world towards minority communities. Does he think actors have a place in politics?
“For sure. I mean, we’re people first, right? Like, I hate when people sort of are like, oh, you’re an actor, shut up. I’m super political and outspoken, and I’m that guy who will say shit. I’m on the right side of history, at least. I’m not being complicit and silent. So, yeah, I think actors for sure have a place in politics. Absolutely.”
While directing was on Diaz’s radar, it wasn’t something that he was actively searching out. But as life would have it, his friend Mallie McCown sent him her script for Dear Luke, Love Me, a film she would play the lead in. Diaz was hooked.
“It was one of those scripts that I had to keep putting down every like 20 pages. I would put it down because I didn’t want it to end. It was so good. Originally, I was just going to come on as a producer of the film, and then the director dropped out, and then Mallie asked me if I was interested in directing. I was scared as shit. I had never directed a feature film. But I was like, it’s now or never.”
The film covers a decade of the friendship between Penny and Luke, covering themes of platonic love, asexuality, co-dependence, and self-identity. With most of the film focusing on just the two leads, Diaz has crafted an intimate and raw film. What is his message with the film?
“That love is complicated, but it’s beautiful and rewarding and worth all the heartache. I believe that. I don’t want to give away too much in the film either, but I think everyone can relate to it because there’s heartache and there’s pain, and there’s beauty and there’s love.”
And in looking at his past work and in looking toward his future career, what kind of legacy does Diaz want to build?
“That I broke some ground, that I knocked down some walls as an artist; I’m hoping that made a difference. It’s funny because when you’re in it, you’re not thinking about all this stuff that could possibly pave the way for other people. You’re just kind of moving along and living your life. But yeah, I would hope that I broke down some walls as a queer Latino.
I hope that people can sort of get something out of me trying to live as authentically as I can, just being my queer self. Hopefully, that helps someone along who is having some troubles being accepted or being comfortable with who they are.”
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Messy makeouts and making queer art with director Breanne Williamson
This director, writer, and YouTuber sits down to discuss her new series and what making queer art looks like today
Most LGBTQ+ people see being outed as one of the worst things possible. For YouTuber, comedian, and director Breanne Williamson, she saw it as an opportunity.
“I started hearing around town that people were saying I was a lesbian,” said Breanne, when she sat down with the Los Angeles Blade to speak about her newest project, Basement 51. “That was really frustrating to me, because as much as I was stressed about coming out, I also wanted it to be in my own words and my own story! So, I decided to upload a video to YouTube called ‘Coming Out’…and the rest is history.” A history that has been filled with more than 12 million views and almost 100K subscribers, as Williamson has risen to become one of the platform’s biggest queer creators.
What began as a rebellious video reclaiming her narrative has become a lifelong career; not only have Breanne’s short films Coming Out and Aging Out racked up millions of views, but her lengthy acting portfolio and regular stand-up performances have established her as one of Vancouver’s rising comedy stars. She spoke to the Los Angeles Blade about her new projects and the struggles that always accompany getting a piece of media off the ground — struggles that have only gotten worse in 2025.
Despite not living in the United States (a fact that many people would call an asset to this performer), Breanne has still been forced to contend with increasing hatred online. “We’re starting to roll back support for queer media,” explained Williamson. “I think back to funding Aging Out a couple of years ago and the amount of businesses down to jump on board — in hindsight, maybe [they were] trying to get that checkmark to say, ‘I support something that’s [gay]!’ But now…it’s a lot of nos, a lot of walls, a lot of, ‘I don’t know if we want to be associated with that right now.”
Recent months have seen the struggles that have always existed for LGBTQ+ creatives get even worse. For years, the entertainment industry has been a treacherous space for new artists; a growing emphasis on multi-million dollar movies and shows has left producers unwilling to take a chance on new ideas. It’s an ever-present issue that has always been even more difficult for marginalized performers like Williamson…lucky for everyone, Breanne and the many artists like her aren’t backing down.
“It’s [all] about uplifting one another,” She said, when describing the many ways her fellow performers have been helping crowdfund and raise awareness about each other’s work. “Amongst my peers, we’re really feeling the need to support one another’s projects more now than ever.” Breanne was lucky to find a place in this supportive, thoroughly LGBTQ+ community early into her career, a group that has only become more vocal in the face of rising bigotry online. It’s because of them that she’s created so many projects that embody queer culture — namely, how thoroughly awkward it can be.
Whether it’s coming out over the course of years or discovering at 30 that you’re older than half the people at any given gay bar, Williamson has always captured the hilarious (and often extremely uncomfortable) sapphic experience through her projects.
“Each character is probably six people in my life, myself included,” she said, when discussing how she imbues every project with the realities of herself and other queer women like her. “When I write, there’s obviously truth to every character and story…like in Aging Out, which is a sapphic rom com, there’s a messy makeout scene in the bathroom of a gay bar — [which was] very much an experience I had that I knew needed to make it in the film!” She laughed at the memory while detailing how it’s scenes like this that really resonate with queer viewers. While simple inclusion is always an asset to the LGBTQ+ community, we’re beyond trying to teach people that being gay is okay. To truly connect with the marginalized folks in her audience, Breanne surmises, you have to recognize the countless awkward, funny, gross, embarrassing, and unpleasant yet nostalgic emotions that make up being LGBTQ+ in the modern day. She has always tried her hardest to bring that level of authenticity to every story…even if those stories happen to be set during an alien invasion.
Basement 51 is Breanne’s newest project, a YouTube web series that sees a lesbian comedian get stuck with her coworkers (and former partner) during an alien invasion. As witty as it is jaw-droppingly wild, Williamson balances the utter chaos of this premise with the grueling experience of being forced to share space with your ex-girlfriend (who you may or may not still have feelings for). While the project is a funny enough metaphor on its own about the abject terror of trying to make it in comedy, above all else, Breanne just wanted to make something for people to laugh at. “At the end of the day, the project is something that I want people to be able to click on and find an escape [from] everything that’s going on in today’s world — to have a laugh.”
It’s a sentiment that has carried the director throughout her career. She stressed how affirming and fulfilling it’s been making the LGBTQ+ media that she never saw as a child, and why people shouldn’t be afraid to do the same today — in fact, they need to. She encourages others not to feel discouraged by the people attacking queer art today and to instead show them that our communities can never be silenced. Of course, this is so much easier said than done, but to everyone nervous about sharing their stories, Breanne ended her interview with some warm advice:
“Set the camera up, and just get going…if you wait and wait for the perfect project, you’re going to be waiting forever. [You’ll look back] and wish you did things differently, but then the next time, you’ll [actually] do those things differently and [improve]. It’s all a learning experience — you’ve just got to go for it.”
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Parenthood and punchlines: Alec Mapa honored for his ongoing legacy of love and laughter
Celebrated actor, comedian, and loving father, Alec Mapa, will be honored at Family Equality’s NIGHT OUT for his trailblazing work in entertainment and his advocacy for LGBTQ+ families
When it comes to blending humor and hard-earned perspective with a healthy dash of heart, few do it quite like Alec Mapa. Actor, comedian, and self-proclaimed “attention whore” (his words, not mine) has spent decades lighting up screens and stages while using laughter as both a mirror and a megaphone for truth.
This November 8 at Nya West in Los Angeles, Mapa will be honored at NIGHT OUT, Family Equality’s gala celebrating LGBTQ+ families and the many avenues of love that make them thrive. It’s an appropriate recognition for someone like Mapa who’s managed to turn visibility into advocacy.
Equal parts entertainer and family man, we had the chance to sit down with Mapa as he shared with us about the power of being seen, the continued efforts for equality, and how both comedy and fatherhood continue to shape the way he navigates through the world.
You’ve got a big evening coming up with NIGHT OUT hosted by Family Equality this coming November 8th. What does it feel like to be honored not just for the impact you’ve made as an entertainer but also as a parent and family man?
It feels lovely because I’m an attention whore, and surprisingly, because I never leave the house. To hear that my work or family would have any impact at all is wonderful news. I’m just here folding the laundry.
Family Equality has been an impactful force for LGBTQI+ families. What do you think is the most urgent and impactful work they’re doing right now?
The urgent work to change hearts and minds hasn’t changed one bit. Since 1979, Family Equality’s mission has been to ensure that everyone has the freedom to find, form, and sustain their families by advancing equality for the LGBTQ+ community. The fight for queer rights is like a game of Whack-A-Mole. Just when you think you’ve made some impact, a new generation of bigots pops up.
With such a diverse and talented group of performers like Monét X Change and Brendan Scannell, how do you think events like NIGHT OUT help showcase the many faces of queer comedy and entertainment?
Performing at queer Hollywood fundraisers is how I met all the queer creators who hired me! Sylvio Horta cast me in Ugly Betty after seeing me perform for the GLAAD awards. Ryan Murphy cast me on Scream Queens after seeing me at Family Equality. Greg Berlanti cast me in Doom Patrol, but not from a fundraiser; I auditioned. Still sore about that.
You are a true Renaissance man, from TV and film to Broadway, stand-up, and voice work. What aspects of your career in the public sphere have influenced your role as a parent?
I took my kid to every set I worked on and introduced him to every department from wardrobe to craft services because I wanted him to see that being an artist is a real job.
What has parenthood taught you about yourself that performing never could?
I’m more careful about my words.
Using harsh language on your kids doesn’t make them stop loving you, but they end up loving themselves less.
Comedy can be a weapon just as much as it can be a unifying force. How do you approach the balance between pushing boundaries while also creating a connection with your audience?
I started out on Broadway, so I always want my audience to experience a catharsis- that sublime release that happens when you laugh all the laughs and feel all the feels.
From Roseanne and Friends to Jane the Virgin and Scream Queens, you have been representing the entertainment world for a minute. How have you seen queer representation evolve over the span of your career? Is there still room for improvement?
In 2000, I was the first out gay Asian actor to play a gay series regular role on network television. Now, Gaysian superstars like Bowen Yang, Nico Santos, and Joel Kim Booster are smashing it. I feel like a gremlin that someone got wet or fed after midnight. However, the caste system that centers whiteness is currently in charge, so diversity, equity, and inclusion might go the way of the Dodo.
You’ve been speaking out and showing up for queer causes for decades. What gives you hope in this current climate? What gives you pause?
What gives me hope is the unstoppable strength, resilience and queer joy of the LGBTQ+ community. No matter how much they try to pave over us, we’re as relentless as a blade of grass bursting through concrete. What scares me is the complete lack of humanity of those in power.
How do you use comedy to spotlight queer issues, especially at a time when audiences might prefer to “laugh and not think”?
The more specific you are, the more universal you become. I didn’t spotlight queer issues in my Showtime Special “Alec Mapa Baby Daddy” (now streaming on YouTube), I just spoke honestly about my experience as a married gay Filipino man and the adoption of our son. My new stand-up hour, “The Buttcracker,” on December 11th at El Cid on Sunset, is all about doing stand-up while I was recovering from prostate cancer. Hilarious.
Adoption is undoubtedly a transformative way for many LGBTQ+ folks to build families. From your point of view, what is the unique power of adoption in creating families, and how has it shaped the broader narrative of queer parenthood?
Several studies have shown that LGBTQ+ individuals and couples are significantly more likely to adopt or foster children in the foster care system. My friend Stephanie White adopted and raised 7 special needs kids. Jason Cook and his husband adopted 6 kids and kept all siblings intact. Despite that powerful narrative, adoption agencies can still legally discriminate against qualified individuals based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Family Equality sent me to Capitol Hill to lobby on behalf of the “Every Child Deserves a Family Act” to prevent anti LGBTQ+ discrimination in foster care. The Act has still not passed. Whack-A-Mole it is.
Join the Los Angeles Blade on Saturday, November 8, in Los Angeles for a special evening of love, laughter, and change-making. Event info here.
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Peppermint and Hugh Ryan on their new podcast: ‘Queer 101’
These queer historians break down why their podcast is premiering at the perfect time.
‘Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it’ — a cliché phrase that is more relevant now than ever.
It’s an unfortunate truth that the erasure of queer history is not a new phenomenon. While the current political climate has featured some of the most blatant attempts to remove our communities’ impact, those in power have always tried to diminish just how much LGBTQ+ people have influenced society as a whole. It’s an ongoing attack that has left many worried about future generations not knowing all of the queer greatness that came before them — and it’s why Queer 101, hosted by Peppermint and Hugh Ryan, couldn’t have come at a better time.
This new podcast from Pride House Media commemorates the moments in LGBTQ+ history that are too often ignored by the mainstream news cycle. And it’s hosted by a pair who make history as much as they record it; Peppermint is a world-famous Drag Queen who went from stunning on RuPaul’s Drag Race season nine to breaking barriers as the first out trans woman to originate a role on Broadway. And as one of the leading voices in the preservation of LGBTQ+ culture, Hugh Ryan has dedicated his career to unearthing and documenting the moments in our history that too many have already forgotten. The Los Angeles Blade was lucky to sit with these hosts to discuss Queer 101, why learning from the past is key to navigating the present, and how everyone listening is already an LGBTQ+ historian – they just don’t know it yet.
“Queer history is a history of resistance,” said Hugh, as he and Peppermint detailed what initially drew them to this project. “This is our chance to talk about everything that touches on pure life, culture, and resistance right now.” And talk about it they do; each episode sees the duo tackle a new aspect in queer history, ranging from deep-dives into little-known advocates to interviews with stars like George Takei about queer life within Japanese internment camps. Theirs isn’t the first podcast to discuss subjects like these, but Peppermint emphasized that Queer 101 is unlike anything listeners have heard before. Not only because of how these topics personally affect them — Hugh is a gay man and Peppermint is a trans woman — but because of their genuine love for the spirit of liberation that makes these stories so impactful. “We often end up with these whitewashed versions [of history],” she explained. “It’s up to the queer people, the people of color…the marginalized people [to] assert our history and redeem it.”
They stressed that this doesn’t mean these episodes are a droll recitation of information — quite the opposite. Each segment is filled with small tangents and jokes from the hosts, with their unique brand of approachable education ensuring that audiences are actually growing from the information they’re hearing.
“A lot of people don’t have…basic knowledge of American history — let alone queer history!” Said Peppermint, when discussing how curated, over-simplified accounts of the past (which almost always erase LGBTQ+ presence) are often all that your average person is exposed to. “We’re setting out to change that…and reintroduce people [to this history].” It’s a valiant mission at any time, but particularly now when so much of the history people have fought generations for is under attack.
Every week under the current presidential administration brings some new attempt to erase the impact of marginalized communities. Whether it be ‘softening’ depictions of slavery or trying to remove transgender folks from the Stonewall Riots memorial, time and time again, these people have shown how desperate they are to disregard those who truly built this country. This podcast’s goal is not only to fight back against such a violent erasure by educating listeners, but also to remind them of a darkly hopeful fact: this isn’t the first time things like this have happened.
“It’s how we know how we got [here], which is how we know what’s happening next. It’s how we understand ourselves and how [to] push back.” Stated Hugh, whose long career has shown him the cyclical nature of history — particularly how many times queer communities have fought for their freedom, attained some, and then had their pride attacked by those fearful of true equality, restarting an at-times unbearable cycle. Peppermint echoed this sentiment, clarifying that while we are in uniquely troubling times, it doesn’t mean that we can’t learn from those who fought before and use their tactics to combat erasure now.
And the best method of preserving queer history for the future? Telling our stories today.
“Everyone has a voice recorder on their phone!” Exclaimed Hugh, when discussing how, by documenting their stories, individuals are preserving their own LGBTQ+ impact and that of those around them. “Where you can do it, bring it out, share it…it’s something we can all do.”
“It’s important for queer people to learn about their history,” continued Peppermint. “To have a connection to the generation before them, to understand how these things get passed down…because it doesn’t happen automatically.” It’s something that these two do every week with their fun, insightful conversations that finally give so many people and moments the respect they deserve. And, they want to remind everyone listening, it’s something that every person in their audience can do by remembering: you’re an LGBTQ+ person with a story to tell.
That means you’re already on your way to making queer history yourself.
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A NIGHT OUT to remember: Tig Notaro on comedy, parenthood, and the value of being seen
Comedian, actor, and producer Tig Notaro is being honored with Family Equality’s Visibility Award at this year’s NIGHT OUT gala, celebrating the authenticity and love she and her wife, Stephanie Allynne, bring to their family and the LGBTQ+ community
There’s seldom a night that combines laughter, love, and a good cause quite like NIGHT OUT, Family Equality’s gala celebrating the beauty and resilience of LGBTQ+ families. This November 8, at Nya West in Los Angeles, NIGHT OUT brings together advocates, artists, and allies for an evening where joy meets justice, and this year it will be honoring none other than the incomparable Tig Notaro. The Emmy- and Grammy-nominated comedian, actor, and producer (and master of the perfectly timed pause) will be honored alongside her wife, the talented Stephanie Allynne. Together, they’ve built a life and career grounded in authenticity and heart, raising their family while reimagining what visibility looks like. As we sat down with Notaro ahead of this year’s festivities, she reflected with her signature mix of dry wit and warmth on her career, community, and what it means to be a family.
You and your wife are being honored alongside some incredible talents at Night Out, hosted by Family Equality. What does this recognition mean to you—personally, professionally, or otherwise?
I’m flattered that anyone has noticed what we’re doing, honestly. We’re already so proud of our family and the life we’ve built together, and to have others take notice—and to feel like it’s making an impact for other families—is really meaningful. It adds another layer of appreciation to something we already hold dear.
You and your wife built your family together, and parenthood is still a politicized space in many ways. How do you navigate the balance between protecting your family and being a symbol of resilience within the LGBTQ+ community?
We just keep moving forward—like we always have. I think that’s the best statement we can make: continuing to live our lives and move ahead.
You’ve spoken openly about the importance of chosen family, which is such a vital part of queer culture. How has your chosen family shaped your journey?
Our sons, Max and Finn, honestly don’t know who’s biologically related to them and who isn’t—and that’s kind of beautiful. We have so many incredible people around us who take on different roles, bring different personalities and love into our lives. If they weren’t around, sure, we could figure things out, but having them in our lives is remarkable. It’s this beautiful, extended web of support. I don’t know if that fully answers your question, but that’s how I feel about it.
It absolutely does. On that note, you were a producer on your dear friend Andrea Gibson’s documentary, Come See Me in the Good Light. How did your relationship with Andrea—and your involvement in that project—impact how you move through the world now?
That experience was deeply personal. I was very clear from the beginning—both as a friend and a producer—that everything needed to be rooted in love and support for Andrea and their wife, Meg. That was my North Star throughout. Even now, any decision I make on the film is guided by that principle: doing right by them.
Working on the documentary was what I call a “compartmentalized joy”—because it was filled with love and laughter, despite being a film about a friend who was dying. And what surprised me was how much hope it gave me—not just in humanity, but in collaboration. In film and TV, it’s easy for differing opinions and egos to get in the way, but this project didn’t have that. We came out the other side with something really positive. That gives me hope.
You co-host the podcast Handsome with Fortune Feimster and Mae Martin, and you field a lot of questions from guests. If you could ask one question to the entire nation—something to spark an important conversation—what would it be?
Hmm… I think it would center around compassion. I’d ask: At what point do you crack open to compassion? And at what point do you shut it down? I’d be very curious to hear about those breaking points in both directions.
That’s a powerful one. Switching gears a bit—you portray Jet Reno on Star Trek: Discovery. If Reno were beamed down to the United States in 2025, what do you think would be the first thing she’d try to repair?
She’d probably start by repairing the planet itself. My character jokes about fixing anything with duct tape—and honestly, that’s not far off. But in all seriousness, environmental issues are the most pressing. If there’s no planet, there’s nothing else to worry about. Jet Reno would definitely beam down and start duct-taping Earth back together.
Your comedy is both personal and deeply relatable. How do you decide what parts of your life to bring to the stage, and what to keep private?
It really comes down to connection. Whether it’s a personal story or something observational, I have to feel a strong connection to it. Sometimes I know right away—oh, there’s something here. Other times, I test it out on stage a few times to see if it clicks. But if I’m amused or entertained by what I’m saying, chances are the audience will be too.
How has the landscape for LGBTQ+ performers evolved since you started your career, and where do you see it going?
When I started stand-up almost 30 years ago, LGBTQ+ performers were mostly confined to LGBTQ+ shows. If you wanted to see a queer comedian, you had to go to a specifically queer lineup. Now, it feels like much less of an issue. The comedy world reflects the larger world—it’s divided in many ways—but within comedy, if you’re funny, people generally don’t care about your sexuality or gender. I hope that continues. Despite the larger political pushback we’re seeing, I haven’t experienced that same resistance within the comedy scene. It’s come a long way.
Finally, as Family Equality’s Night Out celebrates joy and resilience, what message do you hope attendees take away from the evening?
I hope the message is that families—of all kinds—are valid and powerful. In certain circles, there’s still resistance or controversy, but among the families I know, it’s such a non-issue. Our kids didn’t even know we were gay! We never thought to “come out” to them because it just… was. That’s how normal it felt. And I think if we keep creating and celebrating these families, that sense of normalcy will continue to grow. It’ll stop being a “thing”—because it isn’t.
Join the Los Angeles Blade on Saturday, November 8, in Los Angeles for a special evening of love, laughter, and change-making. Event info here.
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Reality star Bill Alverson discusses pageants and parenting
‘Coach Charming’ himself breaks down what it means to be a gay parent today.
In the Bill Alverson’s own words, he spends each day as a ‘walking paradox’; Alverson puts in long hours at his law office, conducts countless appointments as one of the country’s premier pageant coaches, and still makes time to appear on Lifetime’s hit reality series A Sorority Mom’s Guide to Rush!
This isn’t the first time the legal professional has graced TV — he had his own series in 2015 and produced the Netflix hit Insatiable — but his appearances on television are more impactful now than any of his before. Finally, Bill gets to greet viewers as the proud gay man he is today.
From the struggles of America’s legal system to the cutthroat world of beauty pageants, the Los Angeles Blade sat down with Alverson to hear about his coming out journey and how he’s been navigating his sexuality, his many pursuits, and his role as a father (all while appearing on numerous reality shows over the years). He offered ample advice to other queer parents on what it means to put your child first while still respecting your own identity. And, in regard to his long career that grows by the day, Bill makes something very clear: no matter how many shows he’s on or pageants he helps people win, his family always comes first.
“I grew up in a small town in South Alabama…in 2016, the highest percentage per capita that voted for Trump was my county,” explained Alverson, when discussing why it took him so many years to come out. “I didn’t even know what the word bisexual was!” He first grabbed national attention back in 2015 with his reality show Coach Charming, a TLC series that saw the attorney take a break from practicing law to mentor debutantes across the country. Audiences quickly fell in love with this hilarious personality; when he wasn’t showing off his bombastic coaching style or critiquing modern pageantry, each episode showed the idyllic life Bill lived with his wife and three children in Alabama. Viewers quickly fell in love with this family man and the epitome of Southern charm that was his daily life, which is why so many were shocked when he was outed as gay shortly after the first season finale.
While able to joke about it now, Bill described the trauma of his colleagues allegedly outing him to their local community. “When I did Coach Charming, my law firm [allegedly] hacked into my computer…and found out I was gay.” Said Bill. “We were the oldest firm in Alabama at the time, and I was one of the youngest partners…[and] one of them literally told me to ‘get out of town’.” This came during a time when Bill had already opened up to his wife about his sexuality, when the man had been preparing his own public statement to come out to fans on his terms. Because of this alleged invasion of privacy, what could have been a milestone in reality television was instead a personal explosion for Bill and everyone he loved the most.
Eventually, he was able to recover. He capitalized on his newly public sexuality and, after an amicable divorce with his wife (who remains a close friend to this day), began dating men and pursuing new projects as his most authentic self. This led to camp classics like Netflix’s teen comedy Insatiable or his current role on A Sorority Mom’s Guide to Rush!. But even though Bill was able to navigate his new reality with pride, he knew that above all else, he had to make sure his children were as safe and happy as he is now.
Bill didn’t try to rationalize or smooth over his children’s emotions when they struggled with his sexuality. “I [said] to [my daughter], ‘You know what? I didn’t have a road map. I’m sorry I put you through that, and you have a right to be angry.’” He had a version of this conversation with each of his children, small and large confrontations where they questioned his identity and the unwanted national attention his outing had on their family. Bill approached each with a similar candor, stating the key to helping them understand his experience that every queer parent should know: “It all has to come from being honest.”
Alverson quickly learned a hard truth about being a queer parent: your pride can’t just be for yourself. “Are you winning the battle to lose the war?” He asked, when speaking about the times he wasn’t as open about his sexuality because he knew it would lead to his kids suffering with their peers. Bill clarified that he never hid his identity — “I’m like, ‘Who’s the parent, and who’s the child?’” he joked, when describing the times he had to tell his children that he wouldn’t go ‘back in the closet’ for their comfort. But he also learned that when you’re a gay parent, pride is a conversation, an ongoing journey that has to account for not only your experience but that of the children you’re raising. There’s no one way to do it, and he’s experienced many issues with his kids over the years in trying to maneuver life as a gay father. But by respecting their feelings and speaking to them like the young adults they are, he’s been able to turn his journey of self-discovery into a trip the entire family is taking together.
Bill Alverson has established himself as a true powerhouse of reality TV, showing up to inject various shows with his unique brand of Southern sass while still taking the time to defend clients as a practicing attorney. He’s a modern model of truly ‘having it all,’ and throughout his interview, the man reiterated that none of this would be possible without the family who has stood by him every step of the way. His sense of pride is a familial one, and for every other parent struggling to share their authentic identities with their children, he says, “Be the friend you’d want to have — not what makes you happy, but what would make them happy.”
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Best of LA DJ of the Year & queer creative Cazwell gets candid on & embracing his Daddy Era
Legendary queer music artist Cazwell takes home the Best of LA’s DJ of the Year award just in time to release his latest LP HITS ALL OVER YOUR FACE [The Peace Bisquit Collection].
Music is magic. It has the power to transform minds, uplift spirits, and unite communities. In a time of too much discord, good music has the potential to provide us with some much-needed harmony. For many marginalized communities, this harmonious energy is not only an instrument of healing but also an amplifier for our collective voice, no autotune necessary. For decades, rapper, producer, and songwriter Cazwell has been dropping dearly queerly tracks, from Loose Wrists to Rice & Beans, melting both our hearts and our ice cream with every beat. It is to absolutely nobody’s surprise that our beloved bicoastal babe has snagged himself the Best of LGBTQ+ LA 2025 award for DJ of the Year (congrats!)
We sat down with Cazwell and talked about the importance of trans empowerment, bringing his East Coast vibe to the West Coast sunshine, and the anticipated release of his latest LP. Sink your teeth in – this one’s going to get all over your face…
Congrats on winning DJ of the Year by the Los Angeles Blade’s Best of LGBTQ+ LA 2025. How does it feel to be recognized for your influence and impact on the queer music scene?
Thank you, Los Angeles Blade and Best of L.A. Awards! I feel recognized for how much I’ve grown as a DJ. I’m very grateful for getting a Saturday night residency at Hi Tops (West Hollywood). The unpretentious atmosphere gives me permission to take chances and surprise the crowd. When it comes to my music, I’ve been told by some gay people in music that I’ve inspired them to keep going with their craft. It feels good to know that I’ve made a positive impact.
Your sound and visuals have always pushed boundaries and tightened trousers. What fuels your creativity, and how has it evolved throughout your career?
I think what fuels my creativity is that I enjoy the process. I get less satisfaction from observing the work I’ve done compared to when I am taking the steps to make it happen. When my head is wrapped up in the world of making a song or filming a music video, time kind of stands still, and that’s when I feel my most powerful. Making music always gives me the opportunity to talk about the life I want to have or the confidence I want to have, and then I get it from the power of the song. Or maybe it was always there, and I had to just dig it up. I’m not sure, but it works for me.
Can you give us a taste of your latest LP, HITS ALL OVER YOUR FACE [The Peace Bisquit Collection]? What themes can we expect, and how does it reflect where you are in your life?
HITS ALL OVER YOUR FACE [The Peace Bisquit Collection] gave me the opportunity to look back at all I’ve done and give myself a little pat on the shoulder, which I rarely do so for my mental health. It was a positive thing. For me personally, the double album is a reflection of how Peace Bisquit has helped me navigate through my decision-making with music production. I’m very proud of it. I looked at the compilation track listing and said to myself, “Damn! I’ve made a lot of great songs!”
Your fashion and visuals are just as iconic as your music. How do you define your style these days, and who or what inspires it?
Well, now I am certainly in my “Daddy Era.” I’ve been pulling a lot of inspiration from 90’s movies like Trainspotting and Fight Club. I also pay attention to a lot of Japanese fashion and always seem to have my head in a Japanese fashion magazine like “Popeye.” Besides that, I’ve learned that no matter what I wear, if I’m not happy with my body, I’m always hiding something. So now my perspective is to be as healthy and fit as I can, and I will feel and look good.
You’ve collaborated with many talented artists. Who is on your dream list that you haven’t worked with yet?
I want to work with Charli XCX. I was just listening to the BRAT album yesterday, and it still hits hard. I’ve been a fan of hers for years and years, and watching her excel and morph into this party girl-raver-superstar has been amazing. I want to write a song with her just to learn. I can’t wait to see what she drops next.
You’ve always been unapologetically queer in your work, especially at a time when visibility wasn’t always celebrated. What does queer visibility in music mean to you today?
Visibility and queer music need to be protected. To me, it means empowerment and not keeping silent, no matter who you make feel uncomfortable. There’s nothing much more powerful than music when it comes to strengthening your mental health. I’ve always wanted to use my music to make gay people feel just as entitled and cocky as straight people do when they rap or sing.
In a political climate that is increasingly hostile toward LGBTQ+ rights, do you feel a new type of urgency in your work as both an artist and public figure?
The urgency has always been there, but they’re coming for trans people first. The most important thing that all artists – gay and straight – can do right now is use their visibility to bring attention to protecting trans people. And that doesn’t just mean wearing a “Protect The Dolls” t-shirt and calling it a day. It means putting them in their songs, their videos, and finding a way to donate money or time to causes that help trans people. Let trans people know that they are loved and cared for anyway you can.
Have there been aspects of your background (cultural, regional, or familial) that you’ve consciously brought into your work, or that you’ve had to push against?
Well, most recently, I’ve been bringing my Polish heritage into my work, wearing a Polska red and white jogging suit in my “Daddy” videos for social media. I’ve always loved that Eastern European look of the guy with the shaved head in a jogging suit looking like a total asshole, lol. I think it’s funny and sexy in its own way. The influence that New York has instilled in my attitude will affect me forever. I’m still hustling to get all my work done like a New Yorker while some of these West Coast kids are waking up at 2 pm every day thinking about brunch.
In today’s conversations around representation and intersectionality, how do you see your place (or your responsibility) as someone who’s broken boundaries in both mainstream and underground spaces?
Our government is trying to get rid of any piece of history that celebrates people of color and the LGBTQ community. It is important for gay artists to recognize that the majority of the genius that comes from our music was birthed from the Black queer community and to pay them respect every opportunity we have. I also feel it’s my responsibility to mentor young queer artists any time I can. I’ll try to give advice or give my thoughts on their work when they ask me. Many young artists don’t have anyone in their circle to just give them constructive criticism or even uplift them and tell them how talented they are. I think everyone needs that.
You’ve spent time on both coasts. Do you consider yourself more East Coast or West Coast at heart? How have the scenes in NYC and LA influenced you differently, both musically and personally?
I’m definitely more East Coast. I’m a New Yorker till the day I die. Los Angeles has given me the opportunity to relax and gather my thoughts as opposed to always being in a competitive hustle just to keep a DJ gig and pay rent on time. I miss the vibration of New York, but I wouldn’t trade it for the mental clarity that I’ve been able to develop on the West Coast. Hopefully, someday I’ll be bi-coastal.
What’s something fans might be surprised to learn about you, either in the booth or outside the spotlight?
I think the thing that would surprise them the most is that I haven’t had sex in over a year. Partly by choice and partly because I prefer to have sexual relationships with somebody I admire, and I haven’t been able to find that in a long time. It was definitely easier on the East Coast, but I’ve been working on myself a lot lately, so I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
What’s your message to younger queer artists navigating the music industry right now?
Don’t try to perfect your work. It will never happen. Enjoy the process and don’t be afraid to suck. No artist that’s been in the game for years wants to listen to their early pieces of work because it feels so cringe. Just keep making music. Keep putting out art. Don’t focus on the outcome. Just focus on the vision you’ve received because you got this calling for a reason.
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Harvey Guillén gets honest about ‘What We Do in the Shadows’ acting snub, fashion double standards and queer representation
Guillén sees voiceover work as less exclusionary: “All your talent is based not on what you look like.”
Harvey Guillén has had quite the extraordinary year, from making one last stop at the Emmys for the sixth and final season of the hilarious What We Do in the Shadows, acting alongside Lukas Gage and Sophie Thatcher in the horror comedy Companion, to continuing to voice act in shows like Harley Quinn and Mickey Mouse Funhouse.
But he’s only just getting started.
“I guess in my head, I have so much more to do,” Guillén tells The Blade after receiving the Truth Icon Award at the Raizado Festival back in August. “I’m just getting started, and then when they read out 70-something film and show credits to my name, I was like, ‘What!’ Because I’m not keeping score of the projects I’m doing. It blew my mind because in my head, I constantly think this is just the beginning.”
Guillén brings flair to every red carpet and has the goal of becoming the first queer Latino person nominated at the Emmys for best supporting actor in a comedy. But beyond his on-screen visibility, the L.A.-native recognizes the unique opportunity voice acting provides.
“Imagine a place where you can be creative, where all your talent is based not on what you look like, not how tall you are, not your background — just your voice,” Guillén says, reflecting on notable roles in Puss in Boots: The Last Wish and Wish. “And that’s appealing, because voiceover is the hardest place to get into. It’s the one place that’s even more welcoming than any of the other departments.”
Guillén sat down with The Blade to unpack the evolution of his red carpet looks, saying goodbye to his What We Do in the Shadows family, only recently being allowed back in his Altadena home following the devastating wildfires, and wanting to inspire other queer Latino men with both his on-screen and voice acting work. This interview has been edited and condensed.
You’ve had an incredible year, and I’d love to start off by hearing about the inspiration for your red carpet fashion. It really stands out.
That was Harry Haleen, and I think he’s a great, amazing designer. We just work with what we already have. As a big boy, I always like to accentuate curves, and we wanted to do this sharp shoulder, bringing it back to the ‘80s Dynasty moment, but also a plunging neckline, which made it into a corset-looking top. The high-waisted pants gave this cool, almost triangle-cinch look. The pants and outfit were really comfortable to be in, and I had a long, draping cape attached to these pants. When you look in the front, you see pants, and then when you walk away, you see a gown.
I started working with my stylist, Melvin, after years of styling myself. I finally found someone who wanted to show off and make a good impression with fashion choices. That was never an option for me because no one wanted to dress up a big guy. No one would want to take a chance, or their answer was always, “We just don’t know where to shop for you.” That’s ridiculous — fashion should be for everyone, not just for sample-size models. So this whole year, we’ve taken that journey together. We want to make it clear that fashion is for everyone, and the big boys can be fashionable.
What We Do in the Shadows ended this past year with its sixth season. How do you look back on your experience being a part of that show for so many reasons and receiving so many Emmy nominations?
We’ve been doing this for six seasons, and it really felt bittersweet because every time we go to the Emmys, we see a new show come on board, we meet them and they’re always so nice. From Abbott Elementary and Quinta Brunson coming up to us and saying how much they love the show when their first season was on the air — now she’s become a friend — to Seth Rogen from The Studio saying how much he loves the show. And vice versa. You know, comedy is hard. Amy Poehler recently said that sometimes the Academy Awards snub comedies and don’t really take them seriously. I think that’s not fair because making people cry is easy, making people laugh is hard. Because our show had such a specific storyline with vampires, sometimes what got lost in the recognition was taking it as a serious show. Because the writing is incredible, the acting is phenomenal, yet everything but the actors got nominated. We never got nominations except last year, for the first time, Matt Berry got the nomination. We were rooting for him, we were all rooting for you! We wanted him to take home the award, and it didn’t happen. But we at least got the nomination.
For me personally, it was a goal because I wanted to be the first queer Latino to be nominated for a supporting role in a comedy. That would have made history. And so even if I didn’t win, I was like, “At least if I get nominated, we’ll make history.” That’d be cool to open the door for another queer Latino who comes after me, and it didn’t happen.
Hopefully, that history can be made soon. I also know you’re an L.A. native, and your Altadena house was damaged in the January fires. There have been struggling production rates, and the ICE raids. What has it been like to see all these changes in L.A. and also these moments where people have come together to support the community?
It’s been tough. It’s been a rough year. I was just allowed to come back to my home about a month ago. They finally gave us the green light to go. My house was damaged, and the property was all damaged. The night it happened was kind of traumatizing because they didn’t evacuate our side of town in Altadena. I was in my home, I got rid of my car a long time ago, and I was looking out the window. We started rehearsal that day for Anything Goes at the Pasadena Playhouse with Jinkx Monsoon, and we stopped abruptly and said, “There’s been a warning for Altadena.” We canceled rehearsal, went home, and said, “Everyone, go take care of what you have to take care of, and we’ll see you guys tomorrow.” We never went back to rehearsal.
I went back home and saw a red ball of fire in the distance. I was like, “That is way too close,” and they didn’t evacuate us. The winds were 100 miles per hour that night, and there were sparks in the air, amber falling from the sky. I remember thinking, “I just bought this house. I’m a first-generation homeowner.” I had just shown this house to my Mom and tricked her over the Christmas break to think that I had rented an Airbnb, and then when she got to the Airbnb, I told her I bought it. To see her face, to see that her son bought a home in America for the first time… it was very sentimental. I just remember thinking of all that, going back in the backyard and asking ancestors to look after my house.
It’s almost like a distraction to myself to create a distraction for others, because I distract myself by creating a movie, show, or comedy. It’s therapeutic for me to not be focused so much every day on the insanity that is insurance and fire and all that. But along the way, we wanted to use the arts to help, so I did an evening where we raised money for street vendors, who are also being affected by ICE in Southern California. We also did a read of Superbad streaming online with Gloria Calderón [Kellett] to raise money, to donate money to organizations that help people. Just getting back to some kind of normality, which is hard this year with ICE and the fires and everything. And also, where we are with the State of the Union and just in general as human beings. It’s been a tough year, but one thing I’ve learned is that in times like this — in history, in the future — you’ll always need an escape. That means entertainment and actors are more important than ever. We are needed. I’m not a first responder, but what I can do is provide an escape, and I’ll continue to do that as long as I can.
That’s a great way of putting it. Another issue that California has been struggling with is trying to get production back in the state. I know many Emmy-winning shows like The Studio and Hacks were campaigning on the fact that they were shot on location. For you as an actor, is keeping filming local important to you?
Yeah, absolutely. I always say it’s so funny that every day, we have planes that land in L.A. with a new writer, actor, model, and dancer with these dreams of joining this amazing profession. And yet they get here, they’re outsourced to Alabama, to Spain, to Toronto. I can count the number of times that I’ve shot in Los Angeles in one hand for the last decade.
Oh wow.
I consider myself very lucky and privileged to work as often as I do, because as history has shown you, statistically-proven, someone who looks like me, with my background, with my sexuality, should not be successful in this business because they have made it harder for us by diminishing our stories and saying that those stories aren’t welcome. I don’t take it lightly; it’s not lost on me how lucky I am. It’s just you have to constantly be working at the next gig, trying to get the next gig, and all those gigs are never in L.A. because everything has been outsourced. I shot a movie in Spain last Fall. Shadows was shot in Toronto for seven years of my life. I might as well get dual citizenship in Canada!
This is the entertainment capital of the world. I noticed recently that used to be the slogan for Universal Studios, the actual theme park where they make movies. They legally can’t say that anymore; they can’t even stand by their own words. You can’t even say that because it’s a lie; it’s no longer the entertainment capital, but it was built on that. And the idea that this town is so expensive to live in, and you make it even harder to live and work in. It’s a little bit greedy, you know? This city is built on entertainers. You can’t even be an entertainer and live here, right? You have to live in Milwaukee or Texas and then fly in to wherever they’re going to shoot. And if you do that, you’re going to lose what L.A. was based on. That’s scary because the other source of this city was built on immigrants from all over the world.
As you look forward, you mentioned your goal of representing queer Latino men on screen. What kind of roles do you want to take on, and where are you hoping your career will take you?
I would like to think that when people see me on screen, they’re inspired to do anything they want to do. My biggest thing is when I have people come up to me at Comic Con — men, women, trans, non-binary — they say something like, “When I see you, I feel seen. When I see you just living your life full of joy, I see it is possible that I can also be that.” That’s really amazing to hear because when I started this, I didn’t start to necessarily do that, but after I was aware that just by living and doing you every day, you could be inspiring someone who’s going through a hard time. You could be the inspiration someone needs to be an inspiration to someone else — It’s a ripple effect. This is like dropping the rock in the pond and the ripple effects it makes after that.
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